Comments on: Sighting in With Nightforce Optics http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/sighting-in-with-nightforce-optics/ The Leading Multimedia Outdoor Magazine Fri, 27 Aug 2010 18:23:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: MarkSpizer http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/sighting-in-with-nightforce-optics/comment-page-1/#comment-375 MarkSpizer Mon, 03 May 2010 13:28:27 +0000 http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/?p=279#comment-375 great post as usual! great post as usual!

]]> By: Cork http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/sighting-in-with-nightforce-optics/comment-page-1/#comment-241 Cork Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:23:10 +0000 http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/?p=279#comment-241 Yep, Michael. I remember when I told my father that critical thinking was a course no longer required in high school, he said the world would be going the way of emotion, along the lines of a morbidly obese person wondering why they're in front of the refrigerator emotionally digging for food, when they logically know they shouldn't: self-destruction. ...Now our departments of fish and game have to surmount a public that, is first of all allowed to vote on subjects they have no knowledge of, and more importantly, their vote impacts drastically in a harmful manner those decisions that could, if implemented properly, instead lead to a healthy population of all animals: not what we have in California, except on private land where landowners excersize right of domain. If all lands were under the government control, dictated to by the unknowing public that's unwilling to educate itself, private land would be as barren and mountain lion and coyote picked over public land: so picked over that these same overpopulated predators now need to hit private suburban backyards for Fido and Fifi...is it ignorancer or simple lack of interest that they don't know that before the Europeans came to the Americas, the Native Americans kept the predators in control, too? Or, that they used to burn large swaths of land to make sure deer had food to eat? Whenever I learn of a forest fire burning, I think: Burn Baby Burn! ...oh, but no, too many people have put their homes in wildlands, so USFS and BLM are terrified of getting sued...so another herd of deer, over hit by predators and starved by no food due to no burns or logging, goes extinct--not once in modern times because of hunters. I wonder how much longer our animal populations can stand the meddling of those ignorant of many years of proven successful techniques of wildlife management, now so infrequently applied it's a crime against Nature... Yep, Michael. I remember when I told my father that critical thinking was a course no longer required in high school, he said the world would be going the way of emotion, along the lines of a morbidly obese person wondering why they’re in front of the refrigerator emotionally digging for food, when they logically know they shouldn’t: self-destruction.

…Now our departments of fish and game have to surmount a public that, is first of all allowed to vote on subjects they have no knowledge of, and more importantly, their vote impacts drastically in a harmful manner those decisions that could, if implemented properly, instead lead to a healthy population of all animals: not what we have in California, except on private land where landowners excersize right of domain. If all lands were under the government control, dictated to by the unknowing public that’s unwilling to educate itself, private land would be as barren and mountain lion and coyote picked over public land: so picked over that these same overpopulated predators now need to hit private suburban backyards for Fido and Fifi…is it ignorancer or simple lack of interest that they don’t know that before the Europeans came to the Americas, the Native Americans kept the predators in control, too? Or, that they used to burn large swaths of land to make sure deer had food to eat? Whenever I learn of a forest fire burning, I think: Burn Baby Burn!

…oh, but no, too many people have put their homes in wildlands, so USFS and BLM are terrified of getting sued…so another herd of deer, over hit by predators and starved by no food due to no burns or logging, goes extinct–not once in modern times because of hunters.

I wonder how much longer our animal populations can stand the meddling of those ignorant of many years of proven successful techniques of wildlife management, now so infrequently applied it’s a crime against Nature…

]]> By: T. Michael Riddle http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/sighting-in-with-nightforce-optics/comment-page-1/#comment-239 T. Michael Riddle Sat, 06 Feb 2010 11:27:09 +0000 http://corksoutdoors.com/blog/?p=279#comment-239 Excellent, excellent way to put things into perspective Cork! I have grown so very tired of the ETHICS crowd speaking and writing volumes about things of which they are only speculating, and have not a clue nor first hand experience to really be talking or writing at all. The example which you set forth about the shotgunner turned rifle hunter is something which I have seen all too many times in my 30 years of guiding people on big game hunts. The antis really pick up on this and then propagandize it to the non-hunting/fence sitting populace who then will vote with their emotions instead of following the thread of fact. Not that I have anything at all against academic discussion, because much can be learned from this open ended type of dialog. I just wish that more individuals would follow the train of logic which you have presented in this post. Thanks! Excellent, excellent way to put things into perspective Cork!
I have grown so very tired of the ETHICS crowd speaking and writing volumes about things of which they are only speculating, and have not a clue nor first hand experience to really be talking or writing at all.

The example which you set forth about the shotgunner turned rifle hunter is something which I have seen all too many times in my 30 years of guiding people on big game hunts.

The antis really pick up on this and then propagandize it to the non-hunting/fence sitting populace who then will vote with their emotions instead of following the thread of fact.

Not that I have anything at all against academic discussion, because much can be learned from this open ended type of dialog.
I just wish that more individuals would follow the train of logic which you have presented in this post.
Thanks!

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